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Divorce isn’t just a legal process—it’s a high-stakes financial restructuring, often driven by emotion. In this powerful episode, Gabriella Martinelli, founder of Ever After Wealth, breaks down what really happens when money, identity, and life as you know it are all on the line. With over two decades of experience across both legal and financial spaces, Gabriella shares why traditional approaches fall short—and how financial professionals can better support clients during one of the most emotionally charged times in their lives. From uncovering the real reason behind financial decisions (hint: it’s not always about the numbers) to understanding how fear, urgency, and loss of control shape outcomes, this conversation challenges everything you think you know about divorce planning. You’ll walk away with a new perspective on: Why divorce is more than a legal event—it’s a complete financial reset How emotions directly impact financial decision-making The power clients actually have (even when they feel powerless) Why asking better questions can change everything Whether you’re a financial professional or someone navigating a major life transition, this episode is your reminder: the numbers matter—but the why behind them matters even more.
About Real Money, Real Experts
Real Money, Real Experts is a personal finance podcast written and produced by AFCPE®. With an audience of financial professionals, we strive to educate and entertain with a combination of expert tips, engaging interviews, and real-life storytelling.
- Covering real stories about how professionals like you are impacting their clients.
- Offering tips from real experts on how to improve client interactions and grow your business.
AFCPE® ensures the highest integrity of the financial counseling profession by certifying, connecting, and supporting diverse professionals. Our comprehensive programs, the AFC® (Accredited Financial Counselor®) and represent the gold standard of financial counseling and coaching certifications. And our membership community offers a place to share best practices, solve similar struggles, and access tools and resources that advance your career and enable you to better serve your clients.
Meet the Hosts
Rachael DeLeon
AFCPE® Executive Director
Rachael DeLeon, Executive Director of AFCPE®, is co-host of Real Money, Real Experts podcast. Rachael leads AFCPE, a national association for financial counselors, coaches, and educators. AFCPE certifies, supports, and connects professionals across the personal finance field who are committed to the highest standards of professionalism and passionate about helping people with their money.
Dr. Brandy Baxter, AFC®, FFC®
Dr. Brandy Baxter, AFC®, FFC® is the Owner and Coach at Living Abundantly, where she coaches families to bring future financial goals into present reality. She’s also the owner of Envision30, a foresight coaching company, where she helps leaders identify trends that are existing, emerging, and worth exploring. Brandy was AFCPE Board President in 2025.
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Hello! ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!!! l just finished listening to Real Money/Real Experts, Pilot Episode and truly enjoyed meeting you! I was so INSPIRED and MOTIVATED that l WILL cease PROCRASTINATING and get started on reaching my next life’s goal of becoming a financial Coach/Counselor. Thank you so much for the AMAZING LEADERSHIP! Ms. Farrow
Thank you so much for listening! We hope you stick around and enjoy future episodes. Thanks for the feedback!
How can we get FICO open access- for free for our clients instead of paying the fees associated with getting the score and the needed education/coaching? Can this not be waived for financial coaching for AFCPE members?
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Carol, we are offering a webinar with the FICO team. Register now: https://bit.ly/309NsuT
Great podcasts so far. I have listened to the first three. Kudos to Rebecca and Mary.
Thank you for listening! We’d love to have you on sometime 🙂
I use the PodCruncher app for iPhone. Thoroughly enjoyed the interesting and informative first four podcasts. I’m going to listen to E5 sometime this afternoon. Terrific job so far! Thank you!
Thank you for listening!